
In this episode of Lifting the Line, Andy Shaw, founder of Brickies Network and the Bricklayers Association Australia, explains why the National Bricklayers Summit is being held in every capital city this February and why the future of the bricklaying trade depends on it.

Andy sits down with Andrew Crossin, owner of Crossin Bricklaying, to unpack his journey from apprentice to business owner and industry leader. Over 12+ years, Andrew has built Tasmania’s largest and most respected bricklaying business, setting the standard for quality, leadership and professionalism

Andy and Elly sit down with Keith Fagg OAM, long-time hardware retailer, community leader and former Mayor of Geelong.As part of the family behind Fagg’s Mitre 10, one of Australia’s longest-running hardware businesses, Keith shares how the construction hardware sector has dramatically evolved and what it takes to lead a multi-site regional business through constant change.

Andy and Elly sit down with Rebecca Hall, founder of Nine Dots Build Advocates, an independent client advocacy service helping home buyers and investors navigate the building process with confidence. Rebecca explains how building advocates bridge the communication gap between clients and builders, reduce risk and simplify the complex world of residential construction.

Andy and Elly sit down with Ray Bedsen, Director of RBSM Safety Management and a recognised OH&S expert across healthcare, manufacturing, mining and construction. Ray breaks down not only the obvious physical hazards on construction sites, but also the unseen and emerging risks — including respirable crystalline silica and the rapidly growing focus on psychosocial hazards.

Andy and Elly sit down with Richard Crane, former auctioneer, long-time real-estate agent, and now the founder of Estatier — a specialist service supporting families, executors and legal representatives in managing and finalising deceased estates.

Elly and Andy sit down with Marc Magee, Managing Director and owner of MKM Bricklaying in Bendigo. With more than a decade in business and a team of six, Marc delivers high quality residential and commercial bricklaying across Bendigo and the Goldfields region.

Andy talks with Elly about the struggles and challenges within the residential bricklaying industry and his recent trip to Canberra, and his meeting with the Minister for Employment Workplace Relations.

A great discussion with Maree, helping us get our heads around hiring and contracts. The Director of Harvest Talent Recruitment and People Solutions.
She founded the company in 2009 when she returned to Geelong after 20 years abroad as she was keen to showcase best practice in recruitment locally and provide a complete HR offering to the region’s employers.

Woon is an expert shares unmissable advice on how to negotiate under pressure.
Pressure can either break people—or it can forge them into stronger and more capable leaders.
Spending half his career navigating high-stakes situations, first as a hostage negotiator and now coaching executives, teams, and corporate athletes who operate in their own high-pressure environments.
His advice is relevant to negotiating price and payments for businesses - a not-to-be-missed episode.

If you didn’t know, negative mindsets can steal your ability to see opportunities. Dr Simone Boer, author and a high-performance personal coach who helps professionals and business owners stop playing small and start achieving extraordinary results in their business and their life. On this episode, Simone shares about her award-winning book and illustrates the power of mindsets and how they make all the difference.

Leah Grant is a street artist, potter and educator-based Geelong, Victoria. Her work is bright, colourful and uplifting. She explores the textures and colours of various mediums, focusing most recently with aerosol and ceramics. Her approach is energetic yet emanates a peaceful, reflective mood.

Neo Intelligence
The founder and CEO of Neo Intelligence is Daniel Ouliaris. He established the company with the goal of addressing industry challenges faced by construction businesses and empowering subcontractors. Neo Intelligence is a software company that helps construction businesses improve their operations and efficiency.

If you don’t know Cathy, you need to. She’s an absolute powerhouse in the building and construction industry and it is an absolute pleasure to have her partnership for Brickies Network and Lifting the Line. Cathy Inglis AM is the Group CEO of Think Brick, she is also CEO for the Concrete Masonry Association of Australia and the Australian Roofing Tile Association. Cathy's experience has focused on the development of new products and systems to meet the future challenges of sustainable building with innovations including Certified Carbon NeutralBricks, solar roof tiles, non-combustible lightweight façades and bricks incorporating waste materials. Join the stimulating conversation as we talk all things brick related!

Sean Parnell shares the challenges that come with running a business, acknowledging that setbacks are inevitable. However, he emphasizes the importance of resilience and always keeping an eye out for the next opportunity. Now a co-owner of The Shed Company, Sean’s strong business acumen has been a key driver of his success. His focus on problem-solving—rather than being overwhelmed by obstacles—demonstrates a mindset that turns adversity into growth.

As the MD of The Global Marketing Group and CEO/Founder of Flintt, I’ve dedicated my career to empowering visionary leaders to create a lasting impact—one successful event at a time. Hearty advice on marketing your business and getting your signature strengths recognised.

Andy tells his story! With over 35 years of experience in the construction industry—starting as an apprentice, working as a bricklayer, and eventually founding and growing my own business—I successfully ran and expanded my company for 15 years, achieving a net profit margin of over 20% year on year. This success afforded me the flexibility to retire early and pursue other roles within the construction field. I've since dedicated my time to understanding building companies, traveling to teach others, and founding Brickies Network, the Bricklayers Association of Australia.

Elly sees the challenges young people have with the options available to them. On this episode Elly, talks about the University vs Trade school route. She highlights the research from the Australian Industry (Ai) Group by touching on university vs trade school and the process of thinking through how to make decisions and select a career path that suits the aim and young people have.
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